Christians File Suit Against NC Library

you know that you don’t have a picture either.

That makes you seem really dumb.
(even dumber than I though you were before)

OR you are butt ugly and since you didn’t put up a photo, you ASSume that others without a picture must be as ugly as you .
Huh Ace?

You need to do a serious history review. Please pay particular attention to the formation and naming of the political parties.

The term Democratic-Republican Party is the name used primarily by modern political scientists for the first “Republican Party” (as it called itself at the time), also known as the Jeffersonian Republicans.

There is no such law.
You could amuse me and try and prove it.

Those signs are not worth the paper they are printed on.
You can refuse someone who is barefoot DUE TO Health laws, not the sign.

You tell a black person you refuse service because they are black and you will not own the store in a short time.

Flag away, this web site NEEDS me. Traffic has tripped since I came here.

You have a persecution complex!

Diane’s statement is another much repeated false story.. No such bible purchase ever took place.

The American Bible Society is a private organization. It was not founded by Congress.
It publically states that it was founded in 1816. On its website, the first President, Elias Boudinot, is identified as a FORMER member of the Continental Congress. Its second President was the original Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court.

Go to their web site. Get the facts correct. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bible_Society

It’s ALREADY in the Constitution.
are you paying attention?

evidently not.

go read the 14th and weep.

THAT is what will make it legal.

THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT GOD.

are you people dense?

this is not about acceptance by God.
That is all in your twisted little mind.

marriage has over 1000 tax benefits and other legal attachments.
THAT is was they want the right to. They could care less if God accepts them.

wake the F_uck UP people.

Marriage is a contract.

A legal contract that can be broken by divorce.

Your religious application has no place in law. Not all religions have the same beliefs.

You are attempting to force your religious beliefs on others in a country which is founded on freedom of religion.

Marriage is a concept grounded in Biblical times as defined by the Bible. The marriage contract was sanctified by the Church and recognized by the State. What liberals are attempting to do now is to have the Supreme Court redefine the word marriage from a union of one man and one women to include people of the same sex. This has nothing to do with equal protection under the law, because that is not the root of the liberal defense in this case. What liberals are looking for is the complete destruction of the institution of marriage as it is know in order to force Churches to perform “marriages” that go against church doctrine, with the threat of a lawsuit if they do not cave in to their demands. If this were not true then the Supreme Court would not be asked to redefine marriage, but justly provide the same legal protections as afforded to married couples.

Have not been forced, yet. Look how the liberal homosexual community is pushing their agenda so that an individual does not have the right to their beliefs. Like baker or the florist being forced to participate in a homosexual service, or be fined, against their belief. The ministers cannot be far behind on the homosexual list.

You are confusing religion with government.

No one is trying to force the religious to perform same- sex
marriages. However, there are a number of congregations which already do so — quite voluntarily of their own choice.

If you want to live in a theocracy,
I suggest you move to Israel or Iran.

Thank you Mr. Ayers. Well stated. But they will not listen.
So it was in the days of Noah..and the rains came. So it was in the day of Abraham…and fire and brimstone came.
They would not listen. Nor will they listen today. They, like sheep, have gone astray…each to his own way. We are not forcing our beliefs on anyone. We support the Constitutional right of each to choose. The sound of a siren is a warning but nobody has to “take cover.”

” since the homosexuals have been offered the same benefits as married couples but refuse to accept”

complete lie.
Where do you get this stuff?

WWhat are some of the limitations of civil unions?

Civil unions are different from marriage, and that difference has wide-ranging implications that make the two institutions unequal. Here is a quick look at some of the most significant differences:

Portability:
Marriages are respected state to state for all purposes, but questions
remain about how civil unions will be treated in other states since very
few states have civil unions.

Ending a Civil Union:
If you are married, you can get divorced in any state in which you are a resident, provided that state recognizes the marriages of same-sex couples. But if states continue to disrespect
civil unions, there is no way to end the relationship other than by establishing residency in a state that respects the civil union.

Federal Benefits:

According to a 1997 GAO report, civil marriage brings with it at least 1,138 legal protections and responsibilities from the federal government, including the right to take leave from work to care for a family member, the right to sponsor a spouse for immigration purposes, and Social Security survivor benefits that can make a difference between old age in
poverty and old age in security.

Civil unions bring few (if any) of these critical legal protections.
Taxes & Public Benefits for the Family:
Because the federal government does not respect civil unions, a couple with a civil union will be in a kind of limbo with regard to governmental functions performed by both state and federal governments, such as
taxation, pension protections, provision of insurance for families, and means-tested programs like Medicaid. Even when states try to provide legal protections, they may be foreclosed from doing so in joint
federal/state programs.

http://www.freedomtomarry.org/pages/marriage-versus-civil-unions-domestic-partnerships-etc

You really don’t understand government do you?

or the whole debate on same sex marriage.
go read the 14th amendment. get smart instead of ignorant.

Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution contain a ‘due process clause’. Due process deals with the administration of justice
and thus the due process clause acts as a safeguard from arbitrary
denial of life, liberty, or property by the Government outside the
sanction of law.[1] The Supreme Court of the United States
interprets the clauses however more broadly because these clauses
provide four protections: procedural due process (in civil and criminal
proceedings), substantive due process, a prohibition against vague laws, and as the vehicle for the incorporation of the Bill of Rights. Due process ensures the rights and equality of all citizens.

You can PRETEND it’s about “slaves” BUT the Supreme court and scholars for the past 150 years think differently.

RN’s are not Constitutional scholars.
They are just plain nuts.

“I do not need to ‘pretend’ since I am educated and tend to observe facts of law rather than voice my own emotional bias.”

I think that is the first post that GOD and your boundless devotion to said entity was not in it.
For the past several days YOU have been telling me GOD was the basis of the Constitution and all of the US laws.
THAT was you voicing your emotional bias not observing the facts of law.

Regardless of what caused the original writing of the 14th, part of it’s interpretation is “equal rights”

This is a done deal that is over 40 years old.
greater minds than yours have made that decision.
You have to be seriously deluded to think Roe v Wade is ever going to be overturned.

and because we area a secular nation, GOD has no influence on our laws.

why no nativity scene on public land?
you seem to be avoiding that elephant in the discussion.

The Ten Commandments, although part of the the total of the bible, is in fact listed in the Old Testament and therein the Jewish bible. But then you make attributions often not at all correct.

Just pointing out a few of your mistakes of which they are many.

My God is not confined to my home nor my church. He is with me even when I run my business and was with me when I married. I never asked homosexuals to be part of that but it seems today they demand I submit in celebrating their acts of sodomy.

And I refuse to use the word ‘gay’ to describe a homosexual for there is nothing ‘gay’ about the commission of filthy degenerate ACTS and the diseases they invite.

It is not the matter of serving anyone who walks in the door. It is forcing the proprietor to participate in the celebration of the homosexual act of sodomy.
“Praying that you have some gay children.” Only a worshipper of Satan would offer that prayer.

Being forced to bake a cake with a homosexual message on it is an IMPOSITION.
Karma????????? Is that not a favorite term for atheists and homosexuals since the former hate God and the latter ignore Him?

Putting wedding cake toppers of two males arm in arm or two females in wedding dresses on the top of the cake or the names of two females or males designating it as a homosexual celebration is one.

Another is requiring a photographer to attend not only the ‘wedding’ but intermingle with the ‘wedding’ party at the reception and thereby giving appearance of inclusion and the
business’ approval of the event. Both of these examples give rise to interpretive approval which most Christians find repulsive. But the libtards would not recognize that being part of a ‘do it my way or the door’ types.

Recently a heterosexual male went into a bake shop owned by a homosexual and
ordered a cake that said ‘heterosexual marriage’ and was refused. But that was what the customer expected since the owner knew of his opposition to homosexual ‘weddings’ and his attempt to show the example of the out of state lesbians who did the same to a heterosexual bakery.

Would you go into a Jewish bake shop and demand a cake with a Nazi symbol on it? And if not, why not? If you owned a bar and refused to serve a customer would you be taken to task? No, that is the prerogative of the owner, not the customer.

Please do not take my remark about ‘Karma’ as anything more than how I described it. I do not accept, ‘what goes around, comes around’.

NEVER WOULD I AVOID TRUTH.

You confuse me with others who brought up the nativity scene. I NEVER brought
that up.
Furthermore I REFUSE to give you links to support what you already argue are your own?

Was not the Magna Carta – http://www.lordsandladies.org/magna-carta.htm – basically a religious document?
Was not the original founders of religious standards of the Quakers the later
standard upon all to follow based upon?

Was not the fact that even a Catholic signer of the Declaration a point to be taken that not all agreed that our standards were not guided by the Christian principles and not otherwise thought to be theist, atheistic, pluralistic or the absence of a belief in a
CREATOR?”

MIGHT YOU LIST ONE SINGLE PERSON WHO TOOK AN OPPOSITE STANCE OF THOSE WHO THOUGHT THEMSELVED GUIDED BY BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES? Even those thought to be theists honored the existance of a devine creator or did you miss that presentation offered by even the argued theist – Jefferson?

Otherwise might I be forgiven for not responding to IGNORANCE in the face of
self satisfying INDULGENT BEHAVIOR.

I AM DONE WITH DEALING WITH THOSE WHO TAKE MAN’S BEHAVIOR AS RIGHTEOUS AND GOD’S WORD AS BEING BIGOTRY OR LABELED HOMOPHOBIC. To argue to the abscene of GOD does not exclude HIM from creation. Explain to HIM where you or I are wrong? I feel more comfortable in my stance. How about you?

Homosexuals can make claim to the opposite notions of our Republic but they cannot avoid the fact that even those who fought the Revolutionary battles, including Washington, thought homosexuals convicted of such acts should be executed.

Might you continue to ask me for proof——just Google. Simpler.

Yet there is the likeness of Moses in the US House of Representatives and the Ten Commandments in the US Supreme Court. The “Commandments” are universal principals accepted worldwide—except maybe in Islamic-controlled areas. They were not “new” in Moses’ time. “Check” I respect and defend your right to be a “liberal” and your right to not believe a “God” exists. But therefrom we depart.

” and the Ten Commandments in the US Supreme Court.”

ya, not really.

The wall “right above where the Supreme Court judges sit” is the east wall, on which is displayed a frieze designed by sculptor Adolph A. Weinman.

The frieze features two male figures who represent the Majesty of Law and the Power of Government, flanked on the left side by a group of figures representing Wisdom, and on the right side by a group of figures representing Justice.

In a letter on file in the archives of the Supreme Court, Adolph Weinman, the designer of this frieze, states that the tablet visible between the two central male figures, engraved with the Roman numerals I through X, represents not the Ten Commandments but the first “ten amendments to the Constitution known as the ‘Bill of Rights.'”

” **A modest “tongue-in-cheek” proposal.”

or
end all marriages.

Wanna bet the Religious enthusiasts will object to this plan?

So it’s tax breaks they want. Hmmm. Therefore it is a pseudo “marriage.” Then why not all single people just go get married to somebody to get the tax breaks. Forget the “devotion” stuff. These
are marriages of “convenience.” That explains the lunacy of it all.

Why not just eliminate the alleged “tax breaks” granted to “married” people. Singles seem to be unfairly taxed by having to pay county school taxes if they own property. So those who don’t own property get off Scott free and if they have children guess who is paying for their education. Let’s arrange for an education tax only on people who have children. Abolish all tax breaks granted to “married” people. That way we can begin to level the playing field. Yes, let’s level the playing field for EVERYONE. If the top 20 percent of taxpayers are paying 84 percent of the annual federal intake then we should adjust it so EVERYONE pays his “fair share.” Lower the tax obligations of those in the top 20 percent. Start taxing the lower 80 percent at a higher rate. OR—STOP SPENDING the taxpayers’ money on items not used by ALL the citizens. And that is a modest proposal for leveling the field.

My recommendations are not theory. My recommendations are to assist us getting back to reality.
***The military hardware and personnel are in place to protect and defend ALL the people. It is imperative that we MAINTAIN A STRONG STANDING MILITARY DEFENSE SYSTEM because of threats beyond our borders.
All the people use the roads and highways so tax dollars can go for their maintenance.
Not all the people use emergency rooms for runny noses, scratched fingers, and “bad” colds–which clear in ten days by themselves because they are “self-limited” illnesses. Thereat goes a lot of money unnecessarily. We’re told California’s healthcare system is essentially “broke” because of the tsunami of non-American people flooding over the borders to get freebees.
Veterans EARNED their benefits so they do not fall into the limited categories.
Medicare benefit recipients EARNED their benefits so they do not fall into the limited categories. And furthermore Medicare recipients should not have to pay income taxes on Medicare monthly retirement benefits after they earned the right to them by working their forty quarters (ten years). It is absolutely essential that the Government cut spending. Our national debt is astronomically high. it will make life miserable for the coming generations who will be saddled with the responsibility to pay off this debt.
Not theory. Reality.

That’s what we glean from the media which is itself liberal therefore on their side.

It appears that an “ideal” marriage is a rare entity. There is the idea that to be “married” is socially correct; never married is an abomination–in some people’s opinions. We used to hear that girls go to college to get the “MRS” degree. Being “married” is “fashionable;” almost next to being like a “movie star.” And as Scarlett O’Hara said in GWTW, “Well, tomorrow is another day.” A flippant mindset is the order of the day now.

thanks.
this is really much to do about nothing.
just let people live.

Why don’t you move there instead? You would solve two problems for us Christians.

A conforming, non-conformist?

You’re right.
I am intolerant of people who LIE on the internet.
I am intolerant of hypocrites.
I am intolerant of religious zealots who force their beliefs on other people.

What am I doing here?
This place is rampant with all of the above.
It is my patriotic duty to educate you fools and stop the spread of CRAZY
DUH.

see for every 2 wackadoodlees like you there is one that is not yet a full blown batshit crazy.
If they have a brain, they will see the truth, since everything cons post is pretty much fantasy and untrue when you shine the light on IT.

So the part of the Constitution applicable to gay marriage “which will be legal in a few months” is not part of the Constitution now? Well it stands to common sense reasoning if it is not in the Constitution then how can someone find it there? Then to add it to the Constitution takes 3/4ths of the States to ratify and that might take several years to get completed. ….”legal in a few months”????? Reality your capacity for logic and common sense fails you.

“Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”

Matthew 7:1-3

Writing by a people who had no science. Give it up. To err is human.

Homosexuality exists across the entire mammalian species.

God does not make mistakes. His other creatures do not sin, cannot sin.

I’ve heard all the comments justifying hate.
One’s sexuality has nothing to do with right or wrong.

Which God might that be? Jehovah? Allah?The Father? The Son? The Holy Ghost?

All are held holy by the three Abrahamic religions. Yes, child, Islam is an Abrahamic monothesim — with the same roots as Judaism and Christianity.

There are key beliefs in both Islam and Judaism that are not shared by most of Christianity (such as strict monotheism and adherence to Divine Law), and key beliefs of Islam and Christianity not shared by Judaism (such as the prophetic and Messianic position of Jesus, respectively).

If “sexuality” is wrong then we can say that left handed individuals are sinners because they don’t fit the majority norm. People cannot choose their gender orientation or a right or left handed dominance. Nor can people choose their ethnic gene pool. Only when a choice is made that violates one of the Ten Commandments can something be a “sin.” Gender orientation is not mentioned among the Ten Commandments. Adultery is. Jesus of Nazareth elaborated on the subject of Eunuchs.

God does NOT make mistakes! But homosexuals do not follow God, they follow Satan, right to the gates of Hell! Science is a crutch driven by those who lust after Satan! If you resist Satan, he will flee from you! But will you resist? That is the question! It is easier to succumb to the pleasures of devil, than it is to resist him!

I knew it! A demon possessed half assed Catholic! Make an appointment with the church exorcist.

Your problem is, That I do READ MY BIBLE! I just don’t twist God’s word to suit your needs!

Yes, love thy neighbor as yourself but that has nothing to do with having sex with him even though many perverts do try to make it as if the same.

Animals are not capable of knowing right from wrong. God created us in His image, with free will and the ability to know right from wrong. This is what separates us from the animals. We are free to choose where our lives lead us while we are alive. We don’t have that choice once we die, God does.

Again, you are confusing truth with hate.

You are terribly confused.

Judge not, least thee be judged is part of loving thy neighbor.

You don’t get to pick and choose which rules to follow.

Exactly Hilly. Like Obama they think we will drift along accepting their babble hook, line and sinker without checking the facts. That’s how he got elected. The low informed assumed he knew everything and spoke the truth. Obama is great at double-talk and at saying absolutely nothing. My Congressional Representative is another
example of the same. Communicate with him and you get a letter back that says absolutely nothing but babble.

you are proving to be extra dim.
I was asking for an explanation of the part you cons NEVER attach to the part YOU think I left out.

pay attention.

unless looking dim is your goal.

“The Bible was never translated or revised with Old English”

first off what does that have to do with anything? cons never make sense.
is that because you are lying all the time?

Is the Constitution NOT written in Old English?

At what point did I claim t be a historian or an English major?

Tell me, what form of English is the constitution written in?
Certainly not modern English.

and what does that have to do with your lack of understanding of the constitution?

Interesting how you agitators ignore life defining questions. Maybe you should ignore my comments. I seem to be exciting your mind in a most unhealthy way.

Hello, again! So someone there lied to me? Thank you, thank you. I can’t tell you how grateful I am that you have taken it upon yourself to protect me from – what? what’s your name for such deceitful people?

Sheesh, exactly where does it say you have to choose a religion?

“OR FORCE ANY KINDS OF RELIGION ON ANYONE”

In your own words — that is freedom from religion.

Now, do you get it?

Study law. It will increase your reading comprehension.