Springfield Strikes Back: Gay Agenda Backlash

Posted On 10 Apr 2015

The left never saw it coming. They were so fired up about Indiana’s religious freedom law, they didn’t realize they had stepped over a precarious line. They overplayed their hand, and now they’re going to suffer the consequences of underestimating the religious conscience of this proud nation.

The backlash begins in Springfield, Missouri. Last year, the City Council voted to add sexual orientation and gender identity to Springfield’s list of protected categories. When put to the voters this week, however, the ordinance was overturned by a narrow margin. City officials say it was the largest voter turnout in Springfield since 2001.

A.J. Bockelman of LGBT advocacy group Promo was disappointed in the loss. “With the advance of marriage, you have two core beliefs that we believe are at odds in this country: religious freedom, and at the same time we believe as Americans that we don’t discriminate. That’s the fight we’re seeing now. What’s the length we can extend one without infringing on the other?”

It’s rare that you can encapsulate the left’s insanity in a single quote, but Bockelman has produced a doozy. At almost every step in the quote, he exposes the LGBT movement and its liberal champions for the lying hypocrites that they are.

We believe as Americans – Notice how Bockelman puts this. On one hand, you have religious freedom – you know, that wacky idea that only the weird conservative crowd believes in. On the other hand, you have Americans. And Americans don’t believe in discriminating. It’s subtle, but it’s effective in painting this as America vs. the bigoted Christians.

We don’t discriminate – This part alone is worth examination. It’s been repeated so often that we no longer bother to question it. Is it even true? Should it be? As a democracy, we discriminate all the time. It’s the nature of our entire system of government to discriminate among beliefs, ideas, and even people. Why does that come to a halt when sexual proclivities are hanging in the balance? Is homosexuality as deserving of protection as race and gender? Or have we simply accepted this argument without question?

Extend one without infringing on the other – It is impossible to extend “gay rights” any further without infringing on religious freedom. Gay people have all the rights afforded to anyone else. If a straight man goes into a Christian bakery and asks for a gay wedding cake, will they not be denied by the same people who would deny a gay man? The cake is at issue – the wedding is at issue – not the customer. And cakes and weddings do not have constitutional rights.

Christians, proponents of freedom, and business owners feel they have come under attack by the LGBT/liberal army. It didn’t have to be this way. They pushed it too far, and now they are going to lose ground. Can’t say I’m too broken up about it.

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Give them an inch they will demand a MILE !
- Adora Sala
  
  That is so true. Here in California Gays are trying to take over.
  - pumpkin
    
    That is why California will suffer the fate of fabled Atlantis. God is not mocked. What do we expect when the flaming gay marxist masquerading with Michael Robinson aka Michelle Obama as President and first lady? He and “she” are queer as three dollar bills.
  - Victor Archuleta
    
    That is why California is suffering such a drought.
    - ipsd48
      
      California is suffering a drought because with all their money they have no SENSE.
      Just west of them is the LARGEST OCEAN IN THE WORLD and desalinization plants aren’t THAT hard to build.
      - Bret
        
        Or do like Texas has done and build huge underground water reservoirs. Texas was losing more water to evaporation than to consumer use during summers with above ground reservoirs, so they went underground. Last time I checked, California has lots of mountains and numerous underground water sources artesian springs. Maybe Governor Moonbeam Brown hasn’t figured that out yet… ‘DUH’!
      - Victor Archuleta
        
        Please read First and Second Kings. Time and again, whenever a leader rebelled against God and caused his subjects to turn to sinful living and the worship of false Gods, the people suffered as a result of their willingness to accept the leader’s rebellion. But as Second Chronicles 7:14 promises, after the people repent, God will heal their land. You’ll have a better understanding of recent weather events if you read what is displeasing to God. And if the recent snows, floods, and tornadoes don’t persuade you – wait until the hurricanes arrive.
- Jarhead
  
  And your eight year old children………..their disgusting perverted motto: “If over eight, it is late”.
  - Tom Winegar
    
    I am a 62 year old raising my 7 year old grand daughter as a single parent and I will not tolerate any of these children’s books about homosexuality and abortion to rest on her school’s library shelves. When she graduates high school she will have all of the information needed to engage and win against all of the disgusting vomit that spews from the Democrat Party and their deviant membership. Raise children to respect others and treat them with dignity but not be stupid enough to tolerate anything that is damaging to a civilized society. Many other American’s that once believed in “live and let live” have become much more aggressive in teaching their young and voicing their opposition to Communists and their fellow travelers which include the entire Democrat party, homosexuals and atheists. When your kids go off to college be involved and if they are targeted by one of these leftist professors make it clear in a face to face that you will use all means to destroy them if any unfair treatment befalls any of their students because of their beliefs. Intimidation and a subtle threat of violence are also fair tactics to use against those that would spend their time trying to indoctrinate rather than follow the curriculum.
    - 58 Squarebird
      
      Well thank you “Bill O’Really.”
- Michael Dennewitz
  
  Lace it heavily with laxatives! They won’t be back. Heehee
Joseph

I’m not against Gays, but they have no right to infringe their beliefs on Christians. We have rights also.
- David
  
  Absolutely Joseph. I’m straight and don’t plan to change that. If you want to be gay go right ahead.. All people created equal right? I will leave you alone if you leave me alone. Don’t force your choice to be gay down my throat or force Christian businesses to accept your lifestyle. Discrimination goes both ways and the government should not force anyone to do business against their beliefs.
  - Jarhead
    
    All a business has to do is raise their price for the obvious Problem customer….if for some stupid reason they accept…….merely Farm It Out. Every body happy, no shysters, crooked judges need get involved. If business wants to share the profits with a church or charity or an anti-LGBTQ Org. so be it.
    - Tom Winegar
      
      The owner need only tell them that all profit from being forced to make them a cake or doing them a service will be donated to Right Wing groups and then thank them for their support.
      - WatrGrrl
        
        SUPERB idea! Time for CHRISTIANS to fight back against the gay MUSLIM In Chief’s pro-MUSLIM, anti-Christian’s agenda!
      - bobtherebuilder
        
        Now THAT is a good idea, ya’ think it could catch on…in a big enough way?!!!
      - Victor Archuleta
        
        God commands that the first weapon of our warfare is prayer. And the second is the ballot box. The battle we’re engaged in is for gaining the attention of the American people Our battle plan is the same used by the disciples in taking the Gospel to the people – they went door-to-door… and using the same tactics as the Founders, who surrounded by loyalists and hunted by British soldiers, began with anonymous tracts, broadsides, and small group meetings. If you have children in public school, one battle field is the school board. There you’ll be fighting for your children’s minds and future. Another battlefield is the city council’s public meetings. And if you have political leanings, prepare to run for some local public office, and use your campaign to educate the public. If you’re a churchgoer, encourage your pastor to take a stand – refer him or her to:
        /www.facebook.com/pages/For-God-fearing-Patriots/831922393541479
      - 58 Squarebird
        
        Actually .. God commands you to love ‘all’ people. Or did that little bit escape you?
      - ipsd48
        
        Love them, yes. Condone their sinful ways? NO
      - Robert E Boltz
        
        how about gays loving those who do not agree with them but of course most of them do not believe in God am sure 58 sq. will explain it to us
      - Bret
        
        Actually it was stated “you can love the sinner and NOT love the sin”. That escaped you!
      - Victor Archuleta
        
        Thank you for responding. However, I don’t understand what you are referring to. My post directly above is not related to “all people” in a nebulous sense. If you have an issue with the statement “God commands the prayer as the first weapon of our warfare, I refer you to Ephesians 6:18, and to the many teachings of Jesus, who said, for example, “Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in My name, He may give it you” (John 15;16).
      - JeanneD
        
        Great idea, Tom ! That idea can be used in other instances, as well.
      - Victor Archuleta
        
        This seems to be the best suggestion yet. Anything else could be twisted into a lawsuit by the sick minds living the lifestyle.
    - dahniuru
      
      Great suggestion! I’ll pass it on.
    - Victor Archuleta
      
      There’s danger here. A gay person, acting straight may well check on prices, and when a cohort orders the cake at the inflated price – bingo! – a lawsuit for discrimination is the result. I think Tom Winegar has a good idea.
  - bobtherebuilder
    
    The ONLY….I repeat ONLY way for ANYONE to “force” ANYTHING on ANYONE else, is with “Permission”!
    DO NOT give that permission…PERIOD!!!!
    - Bret
      
      If only it were that easy. You see many states have passed laws by popular majority, banning same sex marriage or the recognition thereof. They’ve tried to pass laws that wouldn’t allow a transgendered or crossdressers
      Only to see them overturned by courts. So indeed it can be forced upon you against your will, I certainly don’t agree it should, but these crazy courts do what ever they will anymore.
      - bobtherebuilder
        
        All good (valid) points…but it STILL comes down to the fact that this IS still America (barely), and our forefathers had the sense, and where with all to write OUR Constitution to PROTECT us from this type of Tyrannical behavior…the word “Tyranny” is right there in OUR Constitution…and if more of WE THE PEOPLE would have “payed attention”, and ABIDED BY their words from the start, NONE of this garbage would have EVER taken root in the first damn place!!!!
        So in summation the Constitution is , and ALWAYS HAS been there for a reason, for those of you, and I’m not targeting anyone in particular, that may not be as “up to snuff” as you perhaps should be…read it, take it to heart, and ABIDE by it!
        It really ticks me off when tyrants like obozo say, with that smug grin…”it’s the law of the land”, meaning the “Law” as he, and his corrupt bureaucrat brethren “wrote it”….and re-wrote it….and snuck it through at 3 AM…but I hate to tell ya’ Barry…”THE law of the land” was written, and cemented, in blood, sweat, and tears…LOOONG ago!
        Look it up Barry, ya’ just MAY be surprised, and perhaps learn somethin’ along the way..BUT, I doubt it!!!!
      - Bret
        
        You are right. The president does not respect the real rule of law, our U.S. Constitution.
        He would if he could, just paint over it as if it were a blank canvas his vision of America as ‘He’ thinks it should be.
      - bobtherebuilder
        
        Indeed….”The NEW PROStitution of the U.S.S.A”!!!
        Let’s just hope Barry ain’t “Pimp daddy”!!! :-O
      - Bret
        
        There are many things said about this president. Some are assertions, granted.
        But I recognize exactly the traits he reveals of himself to anyone even slightly aware.
        He is a Marxist styled socialist ideologue, eager to rule in an imperial manner.
        He is a pathological liar. He is incompetent, nihilistic, a narcissist, petulant, ego maniac.
        Isn’t that an accurate description of the man, Barack Hussein Obama?
      - Dick
        
        Bret, while I agree almost completely with your description of Mr Obama, I don’t believe he is incompetent. He set out to destroy America as we know and love it and is doing a darn fine job of accomplishing his goal. God help America.
      - Bret
        
        I say incompetent because of his own words. In every scandal on his watch, Benghazi, IRS targeting conservatives, NSA spying on Americans, whatever… he claims no knowledge of any of it. “I just learned of it, just recently on the news, I didn’t know”.
        If you are the President, Commander and Chief, leader of the free world… it’s your job.
        To damn well know what’s going on, inside your own administration or around the world.
      - Jesse
        
        “If this happens when the wood is green, what will happen when the wood is dry” Jesus said. In America, USA the wood is getting drier.
      - Victor Archuleta
        
        That’s also a description of Adolf Hitler.
      - Bret
        
        Well yes. But, Hitler did surround himself with great generals, the best Germany had to offer. He chose to ignore them and order things done his way and he failed miserably.
        Barack Hussein Obama for the most part surrounds himself with ‘yes men and women’. And as incompetent and inept as Hillary Clinton was as Secretary of State and John Kerry is now, he is just ignoring anything they say and ordering them to do things his way.
        And the results are just exactly the same… epic failures. So yes, the traits are the same.
      - Victor Archuleta
        
        Thanks for responding. I’m aware that military men attempted more than once to assassinate Hitler, and I’ve noticed that “Whazzizname” doesn’t seem to be too friendly with the military. I read over the oath I took on during my time in the Air Force, and if I were in the military today, I couldn’t turn my attention from it – any more than I can ignore it now.
      - Bret
        
        The difference then from now is… there were patriotic Germans who felt it had reached a point that in order for Germany to survive, drastic measures were necessary… even if it cost their lives. Now, here in America, only the really true conservatives know the real situation and want to confront it. The rest are seemingly willing to let the inevitable train crash occur, and only make some feeble attempts to slow the speed of the collision.
      - Victor Archuleta
        
        Could be that hope is being placed in events scheduled for 2016 I say it often that prayer and the ballot box are our weapons at this time. and at this time, the Tree of Liberty must be nourished with the sweat and tears of God-fearing Patriots.
        
        You may be interested in /www.facebook.com/pages/For-God-fearing-Patriots/831922393541479
      - festmatt5440
        
        The ballot box is not a weapon ‘ anymore . Some of us learned in 2012 ‘ ; that free ‘ and honest ‘ elections , are over .
      - Victor Archuleta
        
        There is one thing that prompts me to believe as I do – our liberties, our government, are God-given gifts. Everything that has happened – from the Civil War, to the evil that flows through the halls of government today, has been an open Book exam, given to us by a loving heavenly Parent. We won’t get a passing grade until we bear down on our national rebelliousness study and understand the rules listed in the Book, and apply them as a healing medicine on the nation’s wounds.
        
        All politics is local – in a Republic such as ours, the government rests in the hands of the people. Politics begins with campaigning – the opportunity to set before the people a platform for them to consider and choose. If that platform is established on the Word of God, can there be any doubt that He will inspire the people, by His Holy Spirit, to vote wisely?
        
        Consider “Wazzizname”. Is there any doubt that the spirit of anti-Christ is driving him in his madness, or that his allies are sold out to anti-Christ? Or that these great evils are ordained by God as part of the open Book exam? Scattered throughout the Hebrew Scriptures are promises God made.
        
        He told the nations, do evil and be punished… continue doing evil and I will send armies to conquer you… persist in your evil ways and I will send enemies to destroy you…. repent and come back to Me and I will bless you.
        
        And in His cycles of punishment for disobedience are droughts, floods, disease and pestilence. We have been given examples with hurricanes and tornadoes and snow storms. There is more on the horizon.
        
        And I must place the blame on the ministers. If they attended Bible-based Christian schools, they know the truth – they have studied the Scriptures – but fear of losing their tax exempt status has clamped there mouths shut – and yet God has warned them also. Such ministers are shepherds, who by inaction, are leading their flocks astray.
        
        Not everyone is called to run for public office, however – but those who are, know that they are, and God will stir them to act – IF we pray and Him to do so. Why should He give us what we don’t ask for?
        
        In a country such as America, our duty to the nation is to be done as part of our duty to God.
      - Robert E Boltz
        
        Victor great post you nailed the truth as to GOD’S will, and it will be done !
      - RMCSRET
        
        Hey Victor you might like to read that oath once again, where it states that you swear to
        protect the nation from ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. Then it just might
        make more sense for you.
      - Victor Archuleta
        
        That’s exactly what I meant. If I were in the service today, I would be impelled to point to the enemy, and remind my fellows of the oath. But the enemy, at this time, should be confronted by our prayers, and our influence over the ballot box. Prayer – when uttered by sincere believers in God – releases great power and will accrue great results.
      - Robert E Boltz
        
        Victor ,Thanks for your service to our country!!
      - ipsd48
        
        Alot like the french generals ‘defending’ france against germany
      - Bret
        
        We have French Republicans now, aka RINO’s. Oh, Bon Jour Senators, McConnell, McCain, Graham, Alexander, Bon Jour Congressmen Boehner and King.
      - 58 Squarebird
        
        The President teaches Constitutional Law. If you honestly believe that he doesn’t know and respect the Constitution inside and out, you’re a bigger fool then your post lets on.
      - ipsd48
        
        What he TAUGHT was alinsky methods to SUBVERT the law
      - Bret
        
        Robert Gibbs: Obama Never Taught Constitutional Law
        
        Remember Robert Gibbs?
        
        Robert Lane Gibbs is an American political advisor and commentator who served as the 28th White House Press Secretary during the first term of Barack Obama’s presidency. Gibbs has worked with Obama since 2004 and previously served as the communications director for then-Senator Obama and his campaign during the 2008 presidential election. He later served as a senior campaign adviser for Obama’s campaign during the 2012 presidential election.
        
        From an April 14, 2009 White House press briefing (noted here):
        
        Helen Thomas: Why is the president blocking habeas corpus from prisoners at Bagram? I thought he taught constitutional law. And these prisoners have been there . . .
        
        Robert Gibbs: You’re incorrect that he taught on constitutional law.
        
        Obama states in ‘The Audacity of Hope… he has fond memories of teaching Constitutinal law back in Chicago.
        
        According to “PolitiFact” Obama typically taught 3 courses:
        
        Constitutional Law III: Equal Protection and Substantive Due Process
        
        Voting Rights and the Democratic Process
        
        Current Issues in Racism and the Law
        
        THAT’S WAS IT… ALL OF IT!
        
        It would be wrong to say that he was a constitutional law professor, but it would not be wrong to say he taught some constitutional law.
        
        FactCheck.Org
        
        Posted on March 28, 2008
        
        Q: Was Barack Obama really a constitutional law professor?
        
        A: His formal title was “senior lecturer,”
        
        Obama was a constitutional lawyer in the same farcial way that he was a “community organizer”, a “civil rights attorney”, and “investment analysts”. If we the normal people tried to fudge our resume as much as this bogus clown, Human Resources would fire us for the very first offense.
        
        And on top of that Obama was a failure at them all? He quit “community organizing” after 2 years, twenty years ago, he was an attorney for little over 2.5 years over 15 years ago and his “investment analysis” nothing more than transcribing market reports from the actual analysts. Yet his media painted him as some brilliant all-man who had been toiling away for years protecting communities and civil rights? LIARS!
        
        Why are liberals so impressed by failure? And why was this non-entity promoted as the savior of a nation? Liberals truly are the stupidest people alive.
      - Robert E Boltz
        
        58 SQUARE IT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND how you can be so ignorant regarding Obama
      - festmatt5440
        
        How did you become such a ” F O O L ” , in only one’ lifetime ?
      - Robert E Boltz
        
        58 square you are the idiot Obama does not teach Constitutional law ! HE BREAKS IT! you ARE A TYPICAL ignorant Democrat who believes what ever comes out of his mouth1
      - festmatt5440
        
        He is a Muslim ; not an American .
  - CarolinaSistah
    
    Yes, all people created equal. But does that include ‘all behaviors created equal’? If the latter is also true, there is no need of laws… we can do what we want. We’ve become foolish in our quest for freedom.
  - 1EdMeadows83
    
    I tried to figure out what you’re talking about but, believe me, I couldn’t understand. So, you’re straight. If you are straight there is no way you could become Gay, even if you wanted to. Straights cannot become gay any more than Gays could become straight. This is what anti-gay people cannot understand. Homosexuality is not a choice. You are born gay or you are born straight. It is very considerate of you to give gay people permission to be gay. Who gave you permission to be straight? When did you decide to be straight? This is the biggest obstacle anti-gay people must overcome. Read this carefully, then research it if you don’t believe me.HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A CHOICE! . You think being Gay is the worst thing a person can be. Gay people don’t think being straight is the worst thing people can be. My God! When will people learn?
    - David
      
      Well Ed you’re obviously an idiot which you admitted in your text. Where was it that I said being gay was the worst thing a person can be. I have gay friends and believe me I a know a lot more about it than you think you do. Your whole permission thing shows further what an idiot you are. The decision to act is a choice. Everything in life is a choice like your decision to write such a stupid reply is a choice. The point was that I, like most conservatives, don’t give a damn if someone is gay or not. However I do not want my rights trampled on just like gay people don’t want there rights trampled on. The problem is idiots like you have to make an issue out of it to perpetuate your hate.
      - 1EdMeadows83
        
        Davey, I hate no one. I am a Democrat. I re-read my post twice and nowhere did I admit to being an idiot. You must have idiocy in your brain. It’s easy to make mistakes like that. All you need to be is stupid but you’ve already proved that..
    - ipsd48
      
      On what basis do you claim peopel are ‘born gay’ ? DNA/RNA strands?
      Sorry, but that is an assumption without factual, scientific basis.
      - David
        
        ips48 on that basis old ED1 justifies pedophiles and marring sheep. BUT to each his own.
      - 1EdMeadows83
        
        OK! I made a major mistake! I thought I was dealing with someone who had an IQ somewhere above 80. That’s too bad. I realize explaining things to you in a cogent manner is hopeless. So, I’ll come way, way down and speak to you in a manner you can understand. You are just another stupid, ignorant, Regressive asshole. Can you grasp that thought?
      - 1EdMeadows83
        
        OK, I will grant you this. Male babies are not born wanting to have sex with other male babies. Neither do “straight” male babies have a desire to
        have sex with straight female babies. However, once they get past just wanting
        milk and to be held, they start experiencing various emotions. As they continue to grow and reach pre-puberty,they begin to wonder about that strange sensation that is beginning to stir in their lower regions. That is when the gender is decided. Usually little boys have strange feelings in the presence of little girls and little girls begin to hate little boys at that period. A year or so later those feelings develop into sexuality. Some boys are sexually attracted to other boys and some girls are sexually attracted
        to other girls. From that point the sexuality of all, boys who like boys,
        girls who like girls, boys who like girls and girls who like boys is firmly set
        and there is no way to change.
        
        I have a nephew who is gay.
        Everyone in my family, except his parents, knew he was gay from the time
        he was 6 years old and loved to wear his older sister’s clothes. His Dad, a man
        who was a PhD, but also a man who was born in 1915, decided the best thing for
        the kid would be to send him to a military school. Possibly the greatest mistake he ever made.
        The boy, who just turned 60, has been living with the partner he has known and
        loved since they were little kids.
        
        Regardless what the pontificating, bloviating creatures who
        now inhabit powerful offices, claim, Homosexuality is NOT a choice a person
        makes. Why would anyone want to enter a lifestyle that is so detestable to people of low intelligence, that is,Republican voters?
        Think, before you make stupid remarks.
  - 58 Squarebird
    
    If your business uses public utilities, streets, and etc .. then you cannot ‘not do business’ with anyone. If you don’t wish to do business with a certain group of people, move to somewhere that you’re not using any public funded utilities. It’s just that simple.
    - David
      
      WOW 58 that may be the most communistic anti-American and anti-Constitution statement I have ever read. It is even way beyond Socialism. If you use public roads you must provide services to the gay community regardless of your religion convictions. Live the way the government tells you to live or what? get out, die, go to prison. You are one twisted person.
    - Robert E Boltz
      
      58 sq. why do you not move, since the Majority do not agree with you gays get support because most people do not wish to be trashed by gays who are between 2 to 10 % of the population according to some polls
    - Bret
      
      Actually many businesses post a sign that reads “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone”. It doesn’t say you have to specify why you refuse. I would have a false calendar book on hand. When they specify a date they needed a cake… I reply “Hmm, seems I booked up solid, and we cannot make them up earlier, we will only sell the freshest cakes.”
  - Robert E Boltz
    
    David Well said! and you did with out bashing the Gay community
    - David
      
      Thanks. I don’t claim to speak for anyone but myself but I think most Conservatives want to live their lives, let everyone else live their lives and keep the damn government out of our lives. The progressives however believe they have a right and obligation to tell everyone how to live. Their way is the only way….It’s BS and just wrong.
      - Robert E Boltz
        
        David, I have a Gay Grand daughter, and a gay cousin the difference between the 2 is large my cousin is 90 and GD is in her 20sshe is in your face type, and the older one is a private on, love them both, but to be honest I am more at ease with the older one, Have worked with gays never a problem, I do not care what they do in bed any more than my straight friends. do not believe the Gays have a right to destroy a persons life because they do not agree with the GAY AGENDA. have A NICE DAY
      - David
        
        Well said Robert.. I Don’t believe in the hay lifestyle but that’s for me because I’m not gay. If someone else is gay I worked for a gay woman and her boss was a gay woman. Both great to work for. However if I own a business and my religious conviction opposes that lifestyle the government nor the progressive have no business forcing me to forake my conviction.
      - Robert E Boltz
        
        David, Thanks for your reply, Have a nice day
- Tom Winegar
  
  On several occasions while debating on homosexuals sites I suggested that they would march Christians and Conservatives into the ovens if they had a chance and their response was a very telling “SILENCE”. If that isn’t proof of the level they will sink to then what is? They forget that not all Christians are meek and turn the other cheek, most are well armed and are supported by well armed non-Christians as well and any attempt to impose their perversion onto others will be met by a granite wall. Let George Takei of Star Trek fame be the first one to fall, since he has taken on the roll as celebrity spokesman in support of forcing Christians to go against their beliefs he should be the first one down.
  - pumpkin
    
    Always thought Star Trek was a flaky stupid vapid show. Takei ideas need to be taken down.
    - Victor Archuleta
      
      There was a method to the program. Gene downplayed religious themes, put a well ordered militaristic society before the TV audience, pinned the 666 device on all the crew, which made it possible to ask a computer for the location of a needed crew member. When taken as a whole, the captain was a sane, likable person, but back at SFC the admirals proved to be unstable. Seldom was a civilian political leader portrayed as anything other than a fumbler. Consider the president in ” The Voyage Home”. Spock’s father had to suggest the president act.
    - Bret
      
      I have to disagree, Star Trek actually made compelling storylines that made one think, if one could see the plot’s underlying messages. I offer just four examples:
      
      A Private Little War
      
      An analogy about a war like Vietnam, but in the future between The Federation and Klingons involved in an arms race in a third world battlefield.
      
      Let That Be Your Last Battlefield
      
      An analogy about the ridiculousness of racism based on skin color. One being having black on the right of his face and white on the left, another being black on the left and white on the right in an eternal fight to subjugate one race or destroy it all together.
      
      Arena
      
      An analogy about war and how to best deal with a defeated foe in such a manner to be able to still hold onto noble ideas and humanity. After defeating the Gorn warrior captain, Capatain Kirk is given a choice. A Metron appears to “congratulate” Kirk not only for his victory, but also for displaying the advanced trait of mercy to his enemy. When Kirk turns down the offer to have the Gorns’s ship destroyed, the Metron is impressed enough to note, “You are still half savage, but there is hope.” Requesting that Kirk’s people seek the Metrons out in a few thousand years.
      
      This looks like how we learned a lesson after the end of the first world war the Treaty of Versailles was so harsh on Germany it led to economic collapse and the rise of Hitler and the fascists. But after WW2 we used a different approach with Japan, Germany and Italy. and the results were far better.
      
      The City on the Edge of Forever
      
      A hypothetical look at what could possibly go wrong if we were allowed to travel back in time and alter just one minor event that could effect the total outcome of world history.
  - 58 Squarebird
    
    Tom, you’re an idiot; No one would advocate marching you into ovens, except maybe the Nazis. I think you made up the whole story.
- 1EdMeadows83
  
  What beliefs are the gays trying to infringe upon Christians?
  - David
    
    ED rather than post your stupidity why not just shut up. You are obviously a troll just trying to perpetuate socialist invented division.
    - 1EdMeadows83
      
      Just because you can’t understand logic and reason is no reason to get uppity!
      - David
        
        Yeah OK Ed. You’re confusing logic and reason with stupidity.
  - ipsd48
    
    the belief that people can run their business as they see fit, without threats and intimidation……….or financial destruction.
    - 1EdMeadows83
      
      Ahhh,, it’s not the gays who are making these statements. It’s the haters of homosexuality who own the businesses and who make these declarations.
- Ken Dometriosis .
  
  You should be! It’s a passive acceptance that has made you a nutless eunuch! They HATE you! THEY would KILL you for your lack of tolerance! Fight fire with FIRE and quit being so spineless! They-NAMBLA- RECRUIT 8 yr old BOYS! Do you accept THAT????
Dave Phelps

They are turning the U.S.A. into Sodom and Gomoria, and if you know the Bible that did not turn out so good for those cities
- Sandy
  
  Amen! You said it all, plus the fact that God has specifically stated that a man sleeping with a man or a woman sleeping with a woman is an abomination.
  - Tom Buyea — Fla.News service
    
    But they will !! They already are demanding Rights you don’t have ! I can tell you something else that you have not thought about yet, Their forcing this Gay Agenda as if it is normal and not defective genetic programming in their brains will Kill normal Heterosexual people ! How you ask ?
    Here is how ! In the teenage years junior high and senior high school years it is a very difficult time for all teenagers just deciding if they should or not start having Heterosexual sex and causes complicated mental problems, But if these same normal Heterosexual teenagers are taught by the school that gay sex is also normal, Then Gays will more easily be able to talk them into experimenting with gay sex and that extreme will cause some Heterosexual teens to think they have ruined their lives and commit suicide, Which will be all the school’s fault for pretending gay sex is normal.
    - Sandy
      
      Yes, I agree that most people may not have considered that. I have. I believe that it is far past time to reign the movement to convert young people to the agenda they have and to an immoral lifestyle. It is totally abnormal to pursue the gay lifestyle when you consider all of nature is dependent on the process of propagation of the species. Trees, flowers, plants,mammals. birds, fish, reptiles, amphibians, invertebrates and humans are all dependent on both the male and female to reproduce. The idea that male should be able to procreate with male or female with female is so adverse to all of nature. The bottom line, however, is that we are not following God’s Word. If a nation does not follow the Word of God, that nation is doomed to destruction. There is a God and as the Word states, “a fool hath said in his heart, there is no God!” If one doesn’t believe that, look around at what is going on today.
Monica Krazz

Every single person past, present & future will be different. If you have different likes that should not infringe upon my likes. This is the USA where everyone has the right to trust, not some.
- Blogengeezer
  
  Survival of the Fittest, is the final frontier of weeding out the unsustainable factions (beginning with DNA) of Every society throughout All of history. A harsh teacher is Natural selection, ‘Survival of the Fittest’. It is not a question whether it will return (with a vengeance) It is a question of When.
WC Fisher

I have NO problem with the HOMOSEXUAL community as long as they DON’T come into my yard and PI-SS on my rights, I new a few in the navy and we got along fine. BUT when they tell me I OR ANYONE ELSE HAS TO extend to them other than NORMAL service’s (as in weddings “ECT”) then they ARE FLAT OUT WRONG AND IF THE GOVERNMENT AGREE’S WHIT THE THEY ARE WRONE TOO… AN if this is the case WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY GOVERNMENT does OUR BIDDING… Don’t like me attitude leave me a phone NO” and I’LL call you and you will not like me at all…..
- Tom Buyea — Fla.News service
  
  But they will !! They already are demanding Rights you don’t have ! I can tell you something else that you have not thought about yet, Their forcing this Gay Agenda as if it is normal and not defective genetic programming in their brains will Kill normal Heterosexual people ! How you ask ?
  Here is how ! In the teenage years junior high and senior high school years it is a very difficult time for all teenagers just deciding if they should or not start having Heterosexual sex and causes complicated mental problems, But if these same normal Heterosexual teenagers are taught by the school that gay sex is also normal, Then Gays will more easily be able to talk them into experimenting with gay sex and that extreme will cause some Heterosexual teens to think they have ruined their lives and commit suicide, Which will be all the school’s fault for pretending gay sex is normal.
  - bobtherebuilder
    
    Then WE have to DEMAND louder…PERIOD!!!!
    I have had my fill of it!!! You?
- Michael Dennewitz
  
  THEY’RE NOT GAYS !!!
  THEY’RE QUEERS !!!
- bobtherebuilder
  
  I share your frustration WC, it’s time we draw a REAL “Line in the sand”…and stand FIRM guarding that line!! Enough is too damn much already!!!!
- David
  
  My point exactly WC. Ya want to be gay, be gay. I don’t care. As an American Citizen you deserve the same rights as anyone else. However DO NOT expect to be treated special, change laws, force you lifestyle on people that religious convictions that prevent supporting your CHOICE. Leave me alone and let me live my life my way and I will do the same. Oh yeah, and screw you ED1.
Tasine

Good for Springfield!!! The political left resorts to FORCE to obtain everything they have wanted. Real Americans who understand rights, who LIVE rights and freedoms are sick and tired of the FORCE the left feels is its RIGHT to exert when the total population does not agree with them. MARRIAGE IS NOT A RIGHT. To have freedom is a RIGHT. To be treated equally under the law is a RIGHT. To have your possessions is a RIGHT. FORCING OTHERS TO GO ALONG WITH THE LGBT IS NOT A RIGHT. It flies in the face of what a “RIGHT” is.
- bobtherebuilder
  
  ABSOLUTELY, DIVINELY stated, and 100% irrefutable!!! I have known, and still do know several gays, and they, as well as MANY others that have spoken out, will tell you in a heartbeat how they feel about this “LGBT” CRAP!
  It’s not only a festering boil on the rump of society, but if these radical dredges could actually get off their “stage” , or get their heads out of their posteriors long enough to see straight, they just may (doubt it) see that they are “ruining” things for NOT ONLY we “Homophobes”, or “Bigots”, but also for themselves…but alas they are blinded by the very hate which they accuse everyone of!!!!
MAHB001

We don’t discriminate, Gays do.
Denise

Inwardly, gays understand that they are sexual reprobates. Like their god, Satan, they want to drag as many as possible down with them into the pit of hell. Like their master, they live to “lie, steal, kill, and destroy! If it weren’t so they wouldn’t be so consumed with hate towards GOD’s children.
wcplace

Fagonazis!
Jerry Colon

as a christian i will not do it.
Jesus is my judge and no man will over rule that. i will not cater to gays when it infringes on what i belieave no matter what law they pass…….the gays want it one way and in there favor only and that will not happen
we will fight back and since they are only 4% of the population we have nothing to worry about.
stand your dround and let Jesus be your guide and judge…
they can not for you to sin or go along with there sins.
Jerry Colon

if i owned a bakery and was forced to make a gay wedding cake i would use SORBITOL instead of sugar
it is legal and is a sweetner used in sugarless candies.
one problem…..
it acts like EX-LAX if too much is eaten
they have gummies with it and if you eat about 5 you will be in the bathroom with volcanic diarrhea….
picture a gay wedding and they all need the bathroom all at once…..
if it is a gay male wedding there will be a big mess in there pants with all those loosened rectums.
that would be a priceless moment
- Michael Dennewitz
  
  Would be an absolutely priceless video! HAHAHAHA
- Victor Archuleta
  
  Be careful! The gay mentality is not above putting a substance in the cake and claiming the baker did it, and the socialist progressive judge would have a field day with the complaint.
Francisco Machado

I believe the degree of separation should be taken into account. Baking a cake does not involve the baker in the event at which it’s eaten, but catering an event does. Not selling a cake to a customer based on the appreciation of their preferences in partners doesn’t seem reasonable. Declining to participate in the event for which the cake’s baked does seem reasonable. I strongly suspect antagonists are deliberately creating this problem, that it would not exist among reasonable people but is the result of deliberately generated conflicts. If a baker didn’t want to make me a cake – for any reason at all – I’d shrug it off, wouldn’t give him my business, go to another baker. If he made the best rye bread in town, I’d probably still buy bread from him – just not cakes.
- sandman
  
  There in lies the problems, as the lgbt radicals are NOT reasonable at ALL! in is their way or court! I have many gay friends and a couple of family members who do not appreciate all this mud being dragged up by radicals with an agenda. As they know at some point there will be blow back.
  - mtj3134
    
    Apt choice of blow back ???
  - Tasine
    
    Decent blacks have the same problem. The race baiters are an imbarrassment and a hindrance to the good guys who are black, and the good guys cannot speak out too much or they would be banished by the rot demanding they be part of the problem.
Russell Atchison

Finally a group of people with some common sense, God Bless them.
- Tom Buyea — Fla.News service
  
  But they will !! They already are demanding Rights you don’t have ! I can tell you something else that you have not thought about yet, Their forcing this Gay Agenda as if it is normal and not defective genetic programming in their brains will Kill normal Heterosexual people ! How you ask ?
  Here is how ! In the teenage years junior high and senior high school years it is a very difficult time for all teenagers just deciding if they should or not start having Heterosexual sex and causes complicated mental problems, But if these same normal Heterosexual teenagers are taught by the school that gay sex is also normal, Then Gays will more easily be able to talk them into experimenting with gay sex and that extreme will cause some Heterosexual teens to think they have ruined their lives and commit suicide, Which will be all the school’s fault for pretending gay sex is normal. 674534122
Cleverfun

The very interesting thing about this whole matter is that Homosexuals are “Resting in the Laurels” that many a “Straight” soldier fought and died for years ago and on battlefields many thousands of miles away.

Imagine for a moment if a large portion of the Greatest Generation who fought in World War II were all GAY and what the out come of the war might have been in that particular situation.

What… would they all show up on D-Day on the beaches at Normandy for a Gay Pride march as they beat their drums chanting; “I’m here and I’m Queer” now step aside all you German Homophobes because “we know our rights and we’ll see you in court or bully you to death if you mess with us”… I can only guess what the “D” would stand for [laugh].

No, now imagine if they all got their way… where would our Country be if every-single-person here were all GAY and how long would that little party last?

Ponder that question for a few moments but not for too long I hope because either the Russians, the Chinese or perhaps Iran would wait patiently to make their move and then in an instant, it wouldn’t be so fun be a Homosexual anymore because guess what would happen next & guess who would die first?

With this said, being outwardly Homosexual is a luxury afforded to them by 100% straight-soldiers who has fought and maybe died for the freedoms that we ALL share today so maybe they should think about that before pushing their one-sided agenda too far.

It blows my mind to think that any person, persons and/or group of people truly believe that they deserve some kind of special treatment because of what they do behind closed doors… or at least for now.

It’s a “choice” people now keep it to yourselves and leave everyone else out of it because our enemies are watching & waiting patiently for all of this to tip and once a great majority of this Nation is all GAY…

Stick a fork in us folks… WE ARE DONE!
- mtj3134
  
  To have a Gay Parade, advertising what goes on in the bedroom…. Really ?????
  - Cleverfun
    
    Is that a question or a statement?
- Tom Buyea — Fla.News service
  
  But they will !! They already are demanding Rights you don’t have ! I can tell you something else that you have not thought about yet, Their forcing this Gay Agenda as if it is normal and not defective genetic programming in their brains will Kill normal Heterosexual people ! How you ask ?
  Here is how ! In the teenage years junior high and senior high school years it is a very difficult time for all teenagers just deciding if they should or not start having Heterosexual sex and causes complicated mental problems, But if these same normal Heterosexual teenagers are taught by the school that gay sex is also normal, Then Gays will more easily be able to talk them into experimenting with gay sex and that extreme will cause some Heterosexual teens to think they have ruined their lives and commit suicide, Which will be all the school’s fault for pretending gay sex is normal.
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mtj3134

Another way to deal with the gay agenda, where possible, is to take their money, thank them for helping your business, even though you disagree with them, and then, sub let the work…. Others will make the cake, or take the photos, or make the dress, etc. etc…. You catch my drift ? When I was younger, I was told, take their money, its the best way to end a disagreement…. Why not try this ?
- Jarhead
  
  Has worked successfully for my PROBLEM CUSTOMERS for over 70 years.
- Tom Winegar
  
  Just tell them that their money would be donated to Christian anti-homosexual organizations.
Joe T

Post edited and updated January 2, 2013, to reflect clarifications as a result of interactions with the many people who have left comments. I thank them for their input.

According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 homosexuality was a mental illness. Freud had alluded to homosexuality numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and homosexuality were inseparable. Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and homosexuality was “treated” on a wide basis. There was little or no suggestion within the psychiatric community that homosexuality might be conceptualized as anything other than a mental illness that needed to be treated. And, of course, homosexuality was listed as a mental illness in DSM-II. (The DSM – Diagnostic and Statistical Manual – is the APA’s standard classification of their so-called mental disorders, and is used by many mental health workers in the USA and other countries.)

Then in 1970 gay activists protested against the APA convention in San Francisco. These scenes were repeated in 1971, and as people came out of the “closet” and felt empowered politically and socially, the APA directorate became increasingly uncomfortable with their stance. In 1973 the APA’s nomenclature task force recommended that homosexuality be declared normal. The trustees were not prepared to go that far, but they did vote to remove homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses by a vote of 13 to 0, with 2 abstentions. This decision was confirmed by a vote of the APA membership, and homosexuality was no longer listed in the seventh edition of DSM-II, which was issued in 1974.
Steven Lemon

I am as conservative as anyone else, and a lot more than most, but I believe a bakery or a pizza parlor SHOULD be required to bake cakes and cook pizzas for gays. Those activities do not ask the business to do anything outside of it’s normal business activity. If not, then they could refuse to serve people based on ethnicity, and as a public entity they are violating the constitutional rights of someone.

Having said that, I DON’T think they should be required to cater or otherwise ATTEND an event that confronts their religious beliefs.
A cleaner SHOULD be required to launder your sheets, but they DON’T have to deliver them to a klan rally.
I think it is a losing cause to sue for the right to refuse service to ANYONE, as long as the transaction takes place at the place of business.
- Tom Winegar
  
  Baking and catering are both services that require someone to commit the deed and if a business is privately owned then they should be able to refuse service to whomever they choose. A Conservative would never support violating anothers rights by “forcing” them as you suggest. If anyone is allowed to force their will like that then the door is open to infringe everyone. If I was forced by some leftist judge or city council then I would simply post a sign in clear view explaining that all moneys earned by being forced to serve homosexuals would be donated to Christian anti-Homosexual organizations.
  - Steven Lemon
    
    Hopefully reasonable people will forgive me, a Black, Conservative, right Wing Christian Fundamentalist for sounding like I am defending gays, which I am most certainly NOT. I am defending the constitution, which you want to pick and choose or interpret in your own inimitable way, based on emotion instead of law or even morality. I would personally NOT want to even allow gays into my place of business, but I can’t turn them away just because they are gay.
    
    You say that anyone’s rights can be infringed if they are “forced” to serve people they don’t like. Well, the same is true if you are allowed to pick and choose whom to serve based not on whether they have money but how they look, what they wear, or what baseball team they prefer. You can fight thta fight all you want, but you are going to lose it again and again.
    
    Even a right wing judge SHOULD “force” you, AS YOU PUT IT, to wait on customers AT YOUR PLACE OF BUSINESS, performing a service that you advertise for public consumption.
    
    We went through your kind of “liberty” with Lester Maddox at the Pickrick Diner in Georgia decades ago. They had all those lunch counter sit ins across the South and eradicated that kind of illogical, unconstitutional activity. You can complain all you want, but it ain’t coming back.
    So, asking you to bake a cake is FORCING you? A gay person asking you to do what your business license says you are allowed to is FORCING you? Are you being asked to actually do something that you don’t do all day every day? Using YOUR logic, the equal protection clause of the constitution may as well be toilet paper.
    Jesus Christ hung out with sinners more than with saints. Does that mean He was a sinner? Did that harm HIM in any way?
    
    I really don’t understand why people seem to FEAR just being around gays. Is it because they are afraid they will become gay or that others will think they are? I’m secure in my own self enough that I can hang around the vilest of people without being tainted by them.
    
    If you have a business license issued by local government, then you may not refuse service on the basis of race, creed, color, ethnicity or national origin. I’m fine with adding anything and every “protected class” you can name, as long as members of the public can walk in the door and ask to BUY something they can take out the door with them.
    
    Baking is done on the premises. Catering requires that the caterer participate in an activity by traveling to that location. Those are two totally different things. A privately owned business is not PRIVATE unless it was established as a private business. Any business that allows the general public to enter should not be allowed to discriminate willy nilly as you seem to suggest..
    
    I see no difference in your perspective than I do in David Duke or the Grand Wizard.
    If you are right, then so are they.
- pumpkin
  
  And you are wrong.
valc

What a country we have. The lgbt are taking over with their leader obama in charge. We as christians need to take this country back any way we can.
- Tom Winegar
  
  Christians and their non-Christian supporters are the best armed populace in the world and if push comes to violence our historical traditions will be put back in place. I wonder though if decent people will have the stomach to march all Communist and their perverted membership into the ovens? Those of us that have learned that it is the only choice will not have a problem culling the heard but the less educated members of normal law abiding society will be forced to follow along screaming and kicking or bury their heads in a hole and let others clean things up for them.
  - pumpkin
    
    I have no problem with that marching to that destination.
downs1

Christians are admonished in Scripture to “love the sinner, but hate the sin.” When the “sinners” attempt to push that sin on others to force acceptance, that is a problem! Some cave in and accept the sinful behavior, while others stand up against such action! The bottom line is that both the homosexual activists and the Christians are accountable to God for their actions! This is a problem in a nation where God has been thrown out and homosexuality has been used as a political issue to control people’s attitudes. But, “God is the same yesterday, today and forever.” He does not accept homosexuality and clearly calls it a perversion. No matter how they present the sin, the homosexuals will lose . . . everything! It’s their choice! But the Christian has only one , “to love the sinner, but hate the sin.” If the sinner requests the Christian to do something that implies acceptance of the sin and goes against the person’s faith, the Christian has a right to dissent! That’s clear in the Bible and implied in the Constitution!
- Joe T
  
  In retrospect……Matthew 10:14…….if sinner’s thinking is obstinate to a fault!
  
  The Ministry of the Twelve
  …13″If the house is worthy, give it your blessing of peace. But if it is not worthy, take back your blessing of peace. 14″Whoever does not receive you, nor heed your words, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet. 15″Truly I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city.
Trythis Last

Think about this……
There is no such thing as a “gay wedding cake”. The baker does not have to refuse to make one. He cannot make something that does not exist.
From OUR dictionary…which is NOT owned by LGBTs…no matter how much they try to or claim to own it……………
For wedding we have…..

1.
The act of marrying.

2. The ceremony or celebration of a marriage

a wedding IS the act of marrying.

But …………..marriage is…………..

the
state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a
consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

Even Merriam-Webster differentiates between opposite sex and same sex union

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marriage

I know….logic is not part of the LGBT PR campaign.

Let them have gay unions or gay joining or civil couplings….but they CANNOT re-define marriage.
Cleverfun

The very interesting thing about this whole matter is that Homosexuals are “Resting in the Laurels” that many a “Straight” soldier fought and died for
years ago and on battlefields many thousands of miles away.

Imagine for a moment if a large portion of the Greatest Generation who fought in World War II were all GAY and what the out come of the war might have been in that particular situation.

What… would they all show up on D-Day on the beaches at Normandy for a Gay Pride march as they beat their drums chanting; ” We’re here and we’re Queer” now step aside all you German Homophobes because “we know our rights and we’ll see you in court or bully you to death if you mess with us”… One could only guess what the “D” would stand for [laugh]

No, now imagine if they all got their way… where would our Country be if every-single-person here were all GAY and how long would that little party last?

Ponder that question for a few moments but not for too long I hope because either the Russians, the Chinese or perhaps Iran would wait patiently to make their move and then in an instant, it wouldn’t be so fun be a Homosexual anymore because guess what would happen next & guess who would die first?

With this said, being outwardly Homosexual is a luxury afforded to them by 100% straight-soldiers who has fought and maybe died for the freedoms that we ALL share today so maybe they should think about that before pushing their one-sided agenda too far.

It blows my mind (as it were) to think that any person, persons and/or group of people truly believe that they deserve some kind of special treatment because of what they do behind closed doors… or at least for now.

It’s a “choice” people now keep it to yourselves and leave everyone else out of it because our enemies are watching & waiting patiently for all of this to tip and once a great majority of this Nation is all GAY…

Stick a fork in us folks… WE ARE DONE!
- Tom Buyea — Fla.News service
  
  But they will !! They already are demanding Rights you don’t have ! I can tell you something else that you have not thought about yet, Their forcing this Gay Agenda as if it is normal and not defective genetic programming in their brains will Kill normal Heterosexual people ! How you ask ?
  Here is how ! In the teenage years junior high and senior high school years it is a very difficult time for all teenagers just deciding if they should or not start having Heterosexual sex and causes complicated mental problems, But if these same normal Heterosexual teenagers are taught by the school that gay sex is also normal, Then Gays will more easily be able to talk them into experimenting with gay sex and that extreme will cause some Heterosexual teens to think they have ruined their lives and commit suicide, Which will be all the school’s fault for pretending gay sex is normal.
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Cleverfun

Thank you!
earlwatters

all this crap started with obama the gay president i know a secret service man who was with obama in vegas during bengosa how ever you spell it he was in a room with three fags he could smell grass by the door they all spent the night together with coke and other drugs they couldn’t even rouse him up to answer the door so now you know why he wants to ban gay conversion therapy all fags think there normal
volksnut

i’m not broken up at all – if they feel bad and get their deviant feelings hurt because the majority does;nt agree with their sexual preferences – tough – go find someplace or someone who does accept you – that’s part of acting like a responsible adult – THATS what the rest of us do..
Michael Dennewitz

I have no problem with them either. And as many have said, as long as they don’t try cramming their beliefs down mine, no problem!! What I’ve always taken issue with is “definition!”
During the middle and late 1800s, for the duration of what seemed like “happy times,” the word gay was adopted – (such as the gay 90s). It MEANT a happy time. Made no reference to sexual preference at all. Homosexuality is what it is – QUEER! And the word “QUEER” means exactly that, “O D D ” The queers, over time, stole the word gay because it sounded less offensive. Well, being QUEER is STILL offensive to all if us that are NOT! I just wish people would stop trying to dilute it by using the word gay..
THEY ARE QUEERS ! !
- Tom Winegar
  
  I always refer to them as homosexual because it pisses them off but they won’t complain because it is the truth. It also gets me past the Facebook speech police.
  - Michael Dennewitz
    
    I deleted my account with Facistbook. It was taken over by mooselums!!
    - Tom Winegar
      
      I’m almost deaf so I am limited on how I am able to speak to family but I get what you mean. I placed this picture on left wing facebook walls and all Facebook said when it was reported by butt-hurt Democrats was to place a “Graphic Content” along with the picture. Don’t look unless like me you feel the truth is always the best way to learn.
      
      https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11077858_1104804876211851_983299958494530200_n.jpg?oh=4caa2a56581a8571ae5affba08cbf6a6&oe=559D3759&__gda__=1436969223_1bf68fd9817f7a7de49a1ce0e1ec4308
      - Michael Dennewitz
        
        One can only weep looking at these pics. What in God’s name is America waiting on with a Muslim running the white house? OMG!!
Tom Buyea — Fla.News service

But they will !! They already are demanding Rights you don’t have ! I can tell you something else that you have not thought about yet, Their forcing this Gay Agenda as if it is normal and not defective genetic programming in their brains will Kill normal Heterosexual people ! How you ask ?
Here is how ! In the teenage years junior high and senior high school years it is a very difficult time for all teenagers just deciding if they should or not start having Heterosexual sex and causes complicated mental problems, But if these same normal Heterosexual teenagers are taught by the school that gay sex is also normal, Then Gays will more easily be able to talk them into experimenting with gay sex and that extreme will cause some Heterosexual teens to think they have ruined their lives and commit suicide, Which will be all the school’s fault for pretending gay sex is normal.
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brabbie2002

I have gay friends, but that does not mean they should trample on the rights and rites of we Christians. Marriage is a sacred RITE (not right) of Christiandom. Get a civil or consensual union, but quit trying to make a Christian rite into something our beliefs say is wrong! The gays have their “rights” mixed up!
cal3301

The LGBTs are the biggest group of bigots in America. They do not care about anyone’s rights except their own and will trample every one they can to achieve whatever they feel they deserve.
- Tom Winegar
  
  I went on a homosexual Facebook wall and posted the links I put together below and received messages like…..”Suck my cock” or “you are an old man that needs to die off” or “come out of the closet” or “stop trolling homosexual sites”. They wanted to slap the messenger because I exposed them but all they received back was a smiley face.
  
  HOMOSEXUAL BIGOTRY
  
  http://shoebat.com/2014/12/12/christian-man-asks-thirteen-gay-bakeries-bake-pro-traditional-marriage-cake-denied-service-watch-shocking-video/
  
  http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2014/12/18/different-standards-for-gay-bakers-and-christian-bakers#.VRroIjhxIUM
  
  http://blog.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/2015/02/11/good-news-for-the-right-of-christians-to-make-business-decisions-on-faith/
  
  http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/11/what_do_gays_really_want_from_the_church.html
  
  http://wdtprs.com/blog/2013/08/poll-shows-that-85-of-american-think-photographers-bakers-etc-can-refuse-blatantly-homosexual-clients-without-fear-of-attacks/
  
  http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/01/21/christian-bakery-guilty-violating-civil-rights-lesbian-couple/
  
  http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/26/gay-marriage-religious-freedom-are-incompatible/
  
  http://www.advocate.com/politics/religion/2015/01/22/man-suing-colorado-bakery-christian-academy-cofounder
  
  http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/christian-vendors-locked-out-of-wedding-business/
  
  http://www.crisismagazine.com/2013/gay-persecution-of-christians-the-latest-evidence
  
  http://www.religiousfreedomcoalition.org/2014/07/10/belfast-bakery-sued-for-refusing-to-produce-pro-gay-marriage-cake/
  
  http://www.wnd.com/2014/09/christians-heres-solution-to-gays-suing-your-businesses/
Tom Winegar

HOMOSEXUAL BIGOTRY

http://shoebat.com/2014/12/12/christian-man-asks-thirteen-gay-bakeries-bake-pro-traditional-marriage-cake-denied-service-watch-shocking-video/

http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2014/12/18/different-standards-for-gay-bakers-and-christian-bakers#.VRroIjhxIUM

http://blog.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/2015/02/11/good-news-for-the-right-of-christians-to-make-business-decisions-on-faith/

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/11/what_do_gays_really_want_from_the_church.html

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2013/08/poll-shows-that-85-of-american-think-photographers-bakers-etc-can-refuse-blatantly-homosexual-clients-without-fear-of-attacks/

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/01/21/christian-bakery-guilty-violating-civil-rights-lesbian-couple/

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/26/gay-marriage-religious-freedom-are-incompatible/

http://www.advocate.com/politics/religion/2015/01/22/man-suing-colorado-bakery-christian-academy-cofounder

http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/christian-vendors-locked-out-of-wedding-business/

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2013/gay-persecution-of-christians-the-latest-evidence

http://www.religiousfreedomcoalition.org/2014/07/10/belfast-bakery-sued-for-refusing-to-produce-pro-gay-marriage-cake/

http://www.wnd.com/2014/09/christians-heres-solution-to-gays-suing-your-businesses/
jimdarnall

As a Christian you should be against Gays. Their life style choice goes completely against the Word of God. As Christians we don’t hate them but we cannot accept their way of life no more than we would murderers. We pray for all to have a heart of repentance so that they can be forgiven. We should always be in protest of what they stand for and be promoting what God stands for. In the end God’s will shall prevail.
e111w

The distinction of persons as straight, gay, by religion and etc., is absurd on its face. Add special “categories” such as hate crimes. Absurd. For example: A gay man is murdered and it is immediately “determined” to have been a hate crime. What? Was the victim a person? Is a heterosexual a person? To put Killarys now famous remark to GOOD use, what (damned) difference does it make. A person was murdered. The law applies – period.
marlene

A “narrow margin” will keep this travesty going as the gays will try and try again and again, but next time, they will bring in busloads of gays to vote for them. Maybe even obama and his ilk will interfere and help them organize another fight. If the margin was large, this would be all there is to it. However, we do see, once again, that when a moral people fight back, they can win. This is still good news and I applaud the Springfield voters.
don76550

I don’t get in the face of a queer and scream “I’M HETEROSEXUAL’ i expect the same from them
- Tom Winegar
  
  They get real confused when I tell them I’m asexual. Let’s just say that at 62 I have been taking a breather from intimacy for the last 20 years in response to a number of unfortunate choices I have made.
pumpkin

Sick of the prancing fairies. Loudmouths and obnoxious. Just shut up already. Gays are men or women with bent agenda.
Tracy Jones

I agree Joseph,but I can take it a step further.There are many passages in the bible that say”homosexuality is a
sin”.
Dutchman Barry

The Political Correct has single out the Traditional Christian Community’s religious prohibition or taboo against homosexually as a basis for their unfair attacks! Case in point,The Islamic Faith has a similar prohibition and practice their religious convictions without a peep of condemnation from the PC Crowd? This double-standard not only shows their hypocrisy, but also their own religious-based bigotry! Yet they stand as defenders of equality and fair play? But in all fairness it could be just plain old cowardliness, after all the Christian is post to turn the other cheek, where the Muslin is to retaliate against the infidel! So this makes the Christians a easy target for these so-called social reformers? It’s an old story, a radical political movement using the hysterical shout of injustice to attack an individual, an ethic group, political party or in this case – A Faith! But this is American, not Nazi Germany, here everyone has the right to be heard!
mike f41303

This is another wing on the war against christians. he is using acorn, occupy wall street types to build a wedge against christians. As I have been warning, left wing anarchists are waging a proxy war for obama to transform US.
ChuckW

Here’s my solution. “We, the People” need to get lawmakers (state & federal) to enact clarifying legislation that says
“The only occasion when government may legitimately enact ‘discrimination’ type legislation is when there is well documented, widespread, pervasive discrimination of one segment of society against another. All prior
discrimination laws are, henceforth, invalid.”
Why?
The Civil Rights Law (1965) addressing color was just and needed on this basis. There was widespread, pervasive, legally-sanctioned discrimination of white people against black people, thereby denying them their inalienable right to liberty. Individual liberty is the critical factor here. Remember, the Declaration states “… we are endowed by our Creator (not government) with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, ….” Individual liberty is not a government-given right, and, therefore, government has no legitimate authority to infringe upon in any way. It can only legitimately speak when that liberty is being infringed upon by society, and then only when the infringement/discrimination is widespread and pervasive (as in the days of segregation). Government is charged with protecting God-given individual liberty.

I thank the Human Rights Campaign for helping me to see this clearly. In the HRC FAQ sheet under the heading of why such (LGBT) laws and policies are needed, it is stated that “… the goal is to protect people from arbitrary decisions in employment, …” etc. Now ask yourself (as I did), if it’s government’s responsibility to protect people from arbitrary decisions, then what, exactly, is the meaning of individual liberty? If we as individuals aren’t free to make our own choices as to who we associate with and how we interact with them, regardless of whether others like our choices or not, what real meaning then is there to “freedom” and “liberty”?

We need to scrap existing discrimination laws and start over. Since the absolutely just 1965 Civil Rights Law legitimately addressing pervasive discrimination based on color which infringed on the individual liberty of
black people, other categories have been added that do not satisfy the widespread, pervasive standard. So we need to clean house at this point and get back to the basis on which our country was established – liberty. E.g. If I apply for a job and the Muslim owner doesn’t want to hire me because I’m a Christian, government has no legitimate authority to force him to hire me or to penalize him, or to give me legal standing to sue him. – as long as there are other readily accessible employers who are willing to hire me. He is exercising his inalienable right to liberty. Similarly, if I applied for a job at a place where there was a posted sign saying “We follow Jesus. We don’t hire gays”, I would immediately share with the owner that I’m committed to following Jesus, and that, although I’ve dealt with same-sex attraction most of my life, I am not gay. Gay is a false identity the world provides; my/our true identities are God’s beloved children. Because God has patiently helped me deal
with this abomination, I have that real inner freedom (of which Paul speaks), not just an external freedom which is of lesser importance. As such I can be an asset to his/her business. Then it’s his choice as to whether to hire me. Again, government has no legitimate authority to force him to hire me or give me legal standing to sue, as long as there are other readily accessible employers who will hire me. Only if no employers will hire me is there any legitimate reason for any law or public policy addressing this matter, and these likely should be enacted on a temporary basis, effective only as long as the discrimination is widespread or pervasive. Otherwise, they lose legal force.
All these accretion categories that have been glommed onto what was originally justified law to protect the liberty of one segment of society need to be trashed. “We, the People” are responsible for holding our elected
representatives responsible to clean up this polluted lawmaking that has originated in the last 50 years. Now simply using the word “discrimination” is automatically perceived as “bad”. Just as freedom of speech doesn’t include shouting “fire” in a crowded theater, maybe it’s time to add crying “discrimination”.
Alleged Comment

I don’t trust people that practice or advocate DEMON SEX, do you?
Barrustio

Yea
Joe T

The Mother-fker is a liar………………..doomed to hell.

Obama saying he’s a Muslim and more videos at end of video about the lying black POTUS.

TRULY a scourge on society Barry Soetoro aka Barack Husein Obama, the black plague in USA.

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ENJOY THE VIDEO………Obama saying he’s a Muslim and more videos at end of video about the lying black POTUS.TRULY a scourge on society Barry Soetoro aka Barack Husein Obama, the black plague in USA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

The Evidence via CNN cable News

1. Obama’s admits he’s a Muslim.

2. Obama’s Muslim’s roots.

3. Obama’s Muslim Faith.

4. Obama quotes from Koran.

5. Obama’s praises and glorifies Islam

6. Obama defends Islam.

7. Obama declares America to be a Muslim Nation.

8. America no longer a Christian Nation.

9. Obama bows before a Muslim King.

10 Obama in tradional Muslim Dress.

11 Obama sides with Islam.

12 Obama visits Mosque.

13. Obama says “I am one of them”.
Rustytruck

I read a lot of you people here are worried about being called a bigot or accused of discrimination against homos, I don’t care what they think of me because I am a bigot and disriminate against homos. They’re perverted, and they will not get it by me before I push it right back in their face. They always seem to go after some mild mannered meek baker or preacher, I’m an old Biker and have yet to see them show up at one of our events. Any of you ever heard of them showing up at Sturgis or Daytona Bike week spewing their crap? Me neither, take a hint from us, let ’em know you mean business and they would be making a big mistake showing up around us. It’s called “Stand your Ground” and by God you mean it when you say you won’t tolerate them. After having my kid’s teacher up against the wall in front of their class, they would ask me what was ok to teach, no matter what the school board said. You see, I don’t care about some jail time compared to what garbage my kids are told, homos can piss-off. I don’t like ’em and have zero tolerance for ’em.
- Joe T
  
  Post edited and updated January 2, 2013, to reflect clarifications as a result of interactions with the many people who have left comments. I thank them for their input.
  
  According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 homosexuality was a mental illness. Freud had alluded to homosexuality numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and homosexuality were inseparable. Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and homosexuality was “treated” on a wide basis. There was little or no suggestion within the psychiatric community that homosexuality might be conceptualized as anything other than a mental illness that needed to be treated. And, of course, homosexuality was listed as a mental illness in DSM-II. (The DSM – Diagnostic and Statistical Manual – is the APA’s standard classification of their so-called mental disorders, and is used by many mental health workers in the USA and other countries.)
  
  Then in 1970 gay activists protested against the APA convention in San Francisco. These scenes were repeated in 1971, and as people came out of the “closet” and felt empowered politically and socially, the APA directorate became increasingly uncomfortable with their stance. In 1973 the APA’s nomenclature task force recommended that homosexuality be declared normal. The trustees were not prepared to go that far, but they did vote to remove homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses by a vote of 13 to 0, with 2 abstentions. This decision was confirmed by a vote of the APA membership, and homosexuality was no longer listed in the seventh edition of DSM-II, which was issued in 1974.
Dan

There is another word that liberals have used so much, that it now has no meaning. RACIST is the word. I don’t care what color you are, I have no tolerance for ignorance. The new word they are flailing is SEXIST, courtesy of the Killery Klinton Krue.
Ken Dometriosis .

I’ve had to deal with the freaks on several occasions. They are NOT the happy-go-lucky, happy, dancing little fairies they show on TV. They are ANGRY, VIOLENT, SAVAGE, HATEFUL, BIGOTED AND HYPOCRITICAL of ANYONE and EVERYONE who doesn’t condone their urine drinking, fecal-smearing, butt-humping, animal-molesting, child-raping ways.
They are ONLY 1% of the ENTIRE US population YET the JEW-OWNED news media shows them EVERY day trying to corrupt our children into thinking their way is normal and trying to make us accept and tolerate their perverted and degenerate ways!
Personally, I think 2-3 weeks of electroshock therapy should be ordered for them all and those who are still perverted pole smokers and carpet munchers after 2 weeks should be shot! We don’t need their perversions in the world and Nature abhors those who don’t breed and survive.
Red55bird

I look at the LBGT like the Islamic extremist who’s radical agenda is to destroy Christians, there is more then enough hatred against Jews and Christians in this world, must we also be faced with Gays who want marriage between a man to man or women to women, who want more rights then we who call our self Christians. Who is being persecuted for believing that in the eyes of God marriage should be between a man and women. Christianity is what made this nation great and good, but the fare left have taken and eaten away God, by telling us women have more rights then there unborn child, so she can decide to have it killed if she wants to, by striking the lords prayer from schools and calling it good. How long will Christians sit on there hands and do nothing, I fear it may already be to late.
Ronney

I cannot believe the faggots couldn’t be more happier, they just got it stuck in their A##. And to all of them I am very very pround to be a bigot. The sad part of it is they are all possessed and 99% of the nation cannot even see it. SAD.
Dog on a hog

When you are at odds with reality one want is government to step in and make you accept him… Is that why we have so many skit-sos walking the streets with out treatment.
Sorry i can’t help the queers, I will not accept their life stile and the government can’t force me to.
Bob666

BROOKLYN (The Borowitz Report)—Hillary Clinton has followed up the official announcement of her candidacy with a new campaign ad featuring nothing but kittens.

The sixty-second spot stars an assortment of kittens—tabbies, calicoes, Siamese, and a dozen other breeds—in a variety of adorable vignettes….

At various points in the advertisement, the kittens are shown playing in a sock drawer, tangled up in yarn, and chasing a duckling.

Clinton herself appears only in the final seconds of the ad, saying merely, “Hi. I’m Hillary.”

The commercial immediately drew the wrath of the Republican National Committee chairman, Reince Priebus, who called it “woefully short on substance.”

“There’s no mention of what Hillary Clinton would do to grow our struggling economy, fix the disaster of Obamacare, or repair our damaged reputation abroad,” a visibly furious Priebus told Fox News. “It’s just cats.”

In defense of the ad, the Clinton campaign issued the following statement: “America loves kittens. Loving kittens makes America strong. Hillary is ready for kittens. Kittens are ready for Hillary. Meow meow meow meow.”
mikey00860

Man let them all of them marry and stop this fighting, If they want to go to Hell that there choice. But I don’t want them in my rights has a believer. You live your life style and I will live mine. There is 2 vines growing on this earth on is righteous the other is unrighteous, They both must grow together, there a choice to be made over your life and how you live it. A sinner is a sinner that what he does is sin, He’s look at the word of God and he doesn’t believe it. But God says that is his right, God will judge the world by Jesus Christ, Not by some big mouth trying to spew out judgment on people. God never left a man in charge to judge. I am sick and tried of this crap, And you Gays roaming the street trying to target Christian to make you a Gay cake. And God know what else, Go to bed get some sleep, your making a damn fool of yourself.
Pirate Sword

It seems to me that most people are afraid to say what absolutely needs to be said for a single, simple reason….the butthurt. The PC crap has to stop. It is impossible to make everyone happy all the time. To believe otherwise is an extraordinary waste of time and energy. Feelings are gonna get hurt when truth prevails. That’s how it is. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Don’t be worried if someone gets butthurt, they’ll get over it. If the sodomites don’t like this kind of butthurt (pun intended) get back in the closet and stay there. If they would just stop trying to push the logic that there’s nothing wrong with their lifestyle I believe everyone would benefit. Jmho
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